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Time for an Evangelical and Catholic Alliance for the Common Good Comments

We must join together and reassert in an age of relativism that there are objective truths which can be known, principles by which we can form truly free societies, and rights endowed upon us by God.The American founders carried such a vision into the experiment in ordered liberty called the United States of America. However, they did not come up with this ennobling and enabling vision on their own. They received it from the treasury of ... Continue Reading

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  1. Jeffrey Caperton
    1 year ago

    Deacon Fournier,

    I generally do not address you directly with my own input (For lack of a better term), but this is one time I feel I must.

    I grew up Protestant Evangelical only to leave them as an adult because I found the "Protestant Ethic" essentially no ethos at all. For many Evangelicals, Christianity is no quest for the virtuous life as taught by Christ, nor is there any real quest for truth. For many of them, and I found this particularly true living in the South for a number of years, Christianity is simply a means of self-exaltation while pointing an accusatory finger at others. For the most part, while I found a number of Evangelicals noisy about their Christian beliefs, they were atheist in practice. There are a number of theological and philosophical issues I have with Protestants as well, particularly their harsh attitudes towards those who are poor, and I have not even mentioned the anti-Catholicism that is prevalent in Evangelical circles.

    Before going any further, I do need to add that I knew many Evangelicals whose lives reflected well their profession of faith and it was their witness that kept me in the Christian fold until I joined the Catholic Church as an adult, and I am very proud of my decision to join the Catholic Church. While I have since come to learn that Catholic ideals, particularly among American Catholics, are more on paper than in practice, paper is enough for me as it provides me with a blueprint of the person I am striving to be. The Protestant blueprint was just too cruel for me.

    I do not want to form an alliance with these people as you suggest. I think Catholicism can stand on it's own, and has for centuries, without the need to become pragmatic and form an alliance with those who would rather we did not exist. I realize that Jesus once told his disciples that those who are not against are for us, but, while we may have a few common ideals with Protestant Evangelicals, the fact is, Protestant Evangelicals, in general, are not for us.

  2. Tim Dooling
    1 year ago

    The previous commentator mentions that all religions have common values. If there were not so many so-called Religions who are in business- that is the churches that pop up out of nowhere except the un-godly desires of the people who form them.
    Mainline Religions, for the most part, hold common human values- except when it comes to the Right to Life, same-sex Marriage, and Homosexuality.
    There are Christian churches, and some segments of the Jewish population, who support Abortion, Same-sex Marriage, and Homosexuality.
    I include the Jewish Churches, because Christianity flows from the Old Testament, the Prophets, Jesus Christ, and the Apostles. We are Judaeo - Christians.
    I fully support getting closer with True Evangelists who believe fully in both the Old and New Testament.
    It would be wrong to approach that kind of a relationship for either side to proceed on the basis of Converting the other side. Let the Holy Spirit be the guide for all.
    We can all be certain god knows what He is doing. Tim Dooling

  3. Peter Northcott
    1 year ago

    ...But sadly, from my experience (I am in England), Evangelicals use this 'collaboration' only when they can't do something on their own, but needless to say, they use it as an opportunity to proselytise Catholics too.

    Many Catholics are poorly catechised and get sucked into the feel good factor when invited to 'try out' their services - 'as an ecumenical gesture' - and leave the Church. I know of four this year who've left our congregation for one of the 'house churches' in our town through this 'collaboration'.

    When challenged, the Evangelicals insist that these Catholics left freely, but a few months later if you meet these new 'converts' in the town, they come out with the same old trope: how 'dead' the Catholic Church is, and how much what they've got is real Christianity at last...

  4. abey
    1 year ago

    It is also wise to note that many a Evangelicals have come into the falling away or in the borderlines of Apostasy, not preaching the Bible in its fulness like against the Abortion & Gay Agendas fearing the threats of "hate speech" to conveniently moving away into Prosperity & Social Gospels falling into the New Agers, even through music & mayhem thus contradicting the "essence" of the faith, which is to the salvation.

  5. Deacon Alan Morris
    1 year ago

    I think we are remiss in considering these to be "Christian" values only. All the world religions share the respect for the dignity of every human person. These are not just "Christian" values but rather values instilled in every person by God (however we perceive God). These values, however, compete with the values in our society that favor individual rights and freedoms over the common good of society.


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