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Guest Opinion: Sandy Hook and Gun Control. Can Lawmakers Stop the Killings? Comments

If we truly want to prevent further school shootings in this nation, we need to stop fooling ourselves with utopian "feel good" solutions like passing some more anti-gun legislation. We need to look inward and see that, as Pogo famously said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Continue Reading

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  1. KarlVDH
    1 year ago

    Jerry... seriously... Mexico? That's your example of "strict enforcement?"
    Thanks for the laugh.

  2. SaraPalen
    1 year ago

    Judy Claar,

    yes, excellent article on Becket.( I pray for my own bishop, a softspoken, wonderful man, often). The bishops will need to be strong in the coming years.

    Yes, it is our problem to deal with as lay people too. As Pope Pius xII said, we find ourselves on the front lines of the Church's life...we ought to have an ever clearer consciousness of belonging and being the Church. We are to accept the Gospel in word and deed, identify and denounce evil in the contradictions of the present age, even through the framework of our secular life.

    To me this means to offer up my family to God, raise them accordingly in this more and more Godless society. It is hard work to raise a family. But, the Church has the most profound and beautiful writings on how this can be done, in addition to the Book of all Books, how to live out the faith. No one does this perfeclty, grace is essential.

    Dostoyevsky said the goals of socialism were the destruction of individual relations-husbands, wives, parents, children-remove the yoke of responsibility which religion and morality places on a person.

    call it by another name, but this is what is happening in America.

    The man from the gulag also said that a simple prohibition on the sale of weapons would accomplish nothing and the draconian measure to accomplish it would be unthinkable in a democracy-on the free sale of arms in the USA.

    Bill SR had an awesome post that you refer to. (That guy has just about put me to tears sometimes on other posts). What he said reminded me very much of St Therese, the little Flower.

    we are in the middle of a culture war, one of life, one of death. as for me and my house, by God's grace, I choose life. Pray for me Judy. Pray for our Church, pray for our country. Pray for us to remember who we are.

  3. Jerry N
    1 year ago

    KarlDVH: "... in spite of the fact that the countries with the strictest gun laws have the least gun violence. Simple truth."

    Karl's simple "truth" is simply a serially repeated lie and I have already posted ample proof of the true facts. One need look no further than across the US border into Mexico to easily debunk Karl's lie. Frequent repetition of the same lie, in spite of clear evidence that shows it to be a lie, is a tactic of those who do not care about truth, but only seek to promote an ideology. In Karl's case, the ideology seeks the forced implementation of strict gun control laws, i.e. the first order of business implemented by all dictatorial regimes, and uses the tragic deaths of school children as a means to justify an end.

    Furthermore, in most of the incidents Karl cited as evidence that armed guards "...couldn't prevent a thing", it was armed responders that caused the incidents to end and prevented greater loss of life. Karl also conveniently ignores as many as 2 million crimes that are prevented every year because someone brandished a firearm at the potential perpetrator. Karl's "simple truth" is a lie that, if acted upon, could get millions more people killed than are being killed now, and helps to pave the road for tyranny.

  4. KarlVDH
    1 year ago

    Barbara, you're right. The President hs armed security. And Presidents are still shot. The Pope was shot in spite of the single finest personal security in the world- the Swiss Guard. An armed guard at Columbine stopped nothing. The Department of Defense Police and Military Police BITH on duty at Fort Hood couldn't prebvent a thing. Armed campus police at Virginia Tech didn't prevent that trgedy, either... so, we can't honetly ay armed police in schools- which we can't pay for anyway- is really a solution to anything. It's a feel good idea that won't help a thing. Meanwhile, megabucks are being spent and political careers staked on the idea that tougher gun laws won't help... in spite of the fact that the countries with the strictest gun laws have the least gun violence. Simple truth.

  5. Barbara
    1 year ago

    I'm all for posting police officers at our schools, Israel does it. This is the only way to protect our children. I don't think gun control will do a thing. Bad guys always find a way to get the guns. Our president has gun protection as do most of our churches, why not our children?

  6. SaraPalen
    1 year ago

    one would have to be a real weisacre to not connect these dots that Obama has laid out, to not recognize the most anti-life, anti constitutional president. Assisting with the deprivation of many lives of children by his policies. (No wonder the abolitionists compared abortion to slavery, pretty much the same, in some ways) and he wants us to pay for it. You aren't too pro life if you can't see what is happening here. Less pro life, in fact than a law abiding citizen with a gun in the home. More in support of the culture of death, I would say.

    Are you Catholic, Karl.

    Harm to a private school is a harm to all. He's trying his damnedest to redifine my religion through a thousand paper cuts. (That's why so many different groups supported school case I mentioned). They know what comes next. Already there are many cases that will end up in Supreme court. Did you hear the bishops? they will not comply with these antilife, anti freedom acts that are the seeds of tyranny that Obama shoves down their bellfries,

    So, Karl, when the useless eater's were being euthanised and sterilisation laws were mandated in the 20s and 30s, and guns were being confiscated (sound crazy?- blame those crazy democrats for birnging it up) it was all ok, just so long as other's rights were not violated? Yeah, that's what they used to think over there too. that's what the government counted on.

    we are not progressing-we are going back to the 20s, where in America Catholics and others had to fight in court over the right to raise their children as they see fit, (parental rights means nothing to King O) to teach them them their faith.

    how can one be pro life and support Obama? His administration's record for keeping track of guns has already caused the death of innocents on the border. He let the guns out of the house and just gave them to the bad guys and lost track of them. I wouldn't let my kids use one of those outside of my juristiction, yet criminals used them for evil. Perhaps a mental evaluation should be in order, for someone with that much control over guns, cause that sounds crazy. That's my suggestion for gun control. His administration has already shown actions that defy logic. The buck stops there, right? Take the ak from me, give it to the bad guy.Why don't you just give the fox the key to the hen house? or the key to the asylum. Which will also be in his hands very soon.They will not even anwer to the American people.

    If these politicians were truly pro-life, they would have made statements to the press about their democrat buddies who call for death to NRA members.Is this what we teach our children in Amerca-have a temper tantrum and threaten someone's life? But no, they want people, uselful idiots to be riled up to increase the hatred for those who wish to have a gun in their home.

    The DC and Chicago gun bans were considered reasonable legislation by Obama. Hello-it's not working! I have seen the bullet holes in this theory myself. (but I don't count, I'm not part of the 1% that makes the decisions in this country, the ones that can afford to hire their own protection) As long as the family is being dismantled in America, alls the gun control laws are gonna do is keep guns in the hands of the bad guys. What's wrong with encouraging a family structure of a mother, father and children? encouraging families who teach their sons that people are created in the image of nature and nature's God, respecting all human life, where a father teaches his son how to love and respect firstly his family, how to treat a woman as more than an object of pleasure to be left on her own once the fun is over. Instead the government encourages most every kind of abherrent behavior out of some contrived right in the constitution.

    the crickets are still chirping-and hell is freezing over, pigs are flying and everyone that has a gun in their home must be nuts. That's what the media tells us.(Hey Soledad, lots of people hunt with a semiout rifle-it's not hard to understand why-the AR15 would not be my first choice, though) Let us keep our heads in the sand just a little longer.


    There is a push out there to get rid of all handguns. The easiest way is to attack the semi auto rifle.

    You know what peace-loving Ghandi said about gun control, right.

    I'm going with Vance on this one- we must be vigilant that "control" legislation does not smack of Marx, Karl. or even imperialist England Pierce, as Ghandi would say. guess Ghandi was just too stupid too, right Pierce?

    Trust the federal government for safety and health in my kid's school? No way in hell.
    He is already funding the culture of death in the schools by supporting Planned Parenthood in the schools. This is not pro life. Obama is not pro life

  7. judy claar
    1 year ago

    SaraPalen, I have enjoyed your posts. I especially address the last paragraph of one day ago. Yes, there have has always been kids from dysfunctional homes. But now it seems that there are more of them, and There Is. It is growing out of sync. We, society, have to take some responsibility for healing and mending. Children are innocent when they are born and know and learn only what is taught in their environment. I would say that this is Our problem as a society. (I want you to know that I am not debating you, but having reasonable dialogue on the enormous mess we find our country in. In short, i would like your astute feedback.)

    When I grew up, there were dysfunctional families, but not to the extent of stats that are out there are today. Crime was nowhere near the same. Yes, we have made some strides, but apparently our country it is deteriorating faster than any gains that are made? Everyone was, shall we say, more Catholic, more Christian back then. Here I agree w/Caroline. On this note, I would like to refer you to the Thomas Becket article and read the posts. Especially Bill Sr., before answering this post, if you have the time. Thank you. Blessings...

  8. Jerry N
    1 year ago

    "...the answer is "no," you never had a right that you no longer have. Obama hasn't actually taken any of your rights from you. Correct?"

    Incorrect. Obama, via a freedom-crushing law called Obamacare, has revoked the Constitutionally guaranteed right to freedom of religion. We are now mandated, under penalty of fine or imprisonment, that our practice of religion be restricted to government approved spaces and activities only, and we are being forced to pay for things that violate our moral and religious beliefs.

    Obamacare also further erodes our Constitutionally guaranteed right to own and keep private property by mandating that we must spend our own private resources to purchase a government approved product that we may neither need nor desire.

    Obama has also now stated that he is intent on infringing even more on our Constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms:

    "President Obama on Sunday said he would make gun control a priority in his new term, pledging to put his “full weight” behind passing new restrictions on firearms in 2013."
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013


  9. Jerry N
    1 year ago

    "Crime figures (particulary murders with guns) in European Countries, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, malaysia,and Canada are significantly lower than the USA."

    The above is an attempt to draw a false conclusion by cherry-picking a statistic for a miniscule sample of 5 out of the world population of 195 countries. Many countries, Mexico being a striking example, have much stricter gun control laws and much lower per-capita gun ownership that the USA, yet have higher rates of gun homicides per capita, and much higher rates of total violent crime and total homicides:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/schoo-shooting-how-do-u-s-gun-homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

    There is low correlation of crime rates to gun control laws, or laws of any type for that matter. Crime rates are much more a function of cultural, socio-economic, law enforcement mechanisms and historical factors than of laws.

  10. Jerry N
    1 year ago

    Sarjeet: "I find it difficult to understand why the right to bear arms (man-made right) takes precedence over another persons right to life (god given right)."

    Perhaps you find it difficult to understand because you set up an illogical straw man argument in order to promote a false premise. Or perhaps you simply find it difficult to understand the idea of freedom. Many Americans seem to have that same difficulty in recent years, including numerous prominent government leaders and several Supreme Court Justices.

    The right to bear arms has not "taken precedence" when someone harms another with a firearm. That is as illogical as saying the right to freedom of assembly has "taken precedence" if a public protest turns violent and someone is killed as a result.

    The right to bear arms is exercised by owning a firearm, not by its use or abuse. Forced denial of freedom by government has never prevented criminals from violating the God-given rights of others. In fact, it encourages criminals to commit more frequent and violent crimes. Washington DC is the perfect case in point: DC has the strictest gun control laws anywhere in the nation, but yet has the highest incidence of crime involving guns.


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